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Anybody who has a new ideas always
laughed at. First they laugh at you then
they get mad at you eventually they love
you. Tell me do you think spirituality
and believe in after life For sure when
people gain fame when you make more
money you think less about what happens
after death because you don't want to
die when things are going well. So yeah
I mean a lot of people lose touch when
they start to make money and become
famous. Look at universities now. people
are they follow the zeit you know what
zeitgeist means it's a German word the
spirit of the times so whatever the
spirit of the times are every academic
is also pressured to not lose their job
you saw this recently with a lot of woke
stuff about gender sex a lot of
professors some I know they're afraid to
speak out cuz like I'm going to lose my
job the cool thing about a robot I mean
is part of me hates that thought but
part of me is like man humans make a lot
of mistakes you know humans get tired
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here in my garage. So let me ask you a
very basic question. Okay. For you. Yes.
In this AI era. Yeah. What is the soul
What is the soul Say the first thing is
whenever we use human words, we always
fall short because when a Christian
hears the word soul versus a Hindu, we
people mean different things. But I
think the soul is the part of us that
science can't figure out yet.
So there's a part to humans like there's
something called quantum consciousness
that one of the Nobel Prize winners uh
Ro Roger Penrose talks about which is
like you're asleep life's not going well
for you nothing's winning and you wake
up with like an instant idea an
invention a solution and throughout
history there's people who had these
ideas that solved disease that sol that
invented
like Tesla, the original guy Tesla. So
where do those come from Those probably
come out of the soul. Now scientists
don't call the soul, they call it like
the quantum, the part that's so
small, we can't measure it yet. I love
that you mentioned Roger Penrose because
it's the major of our let's call it
discussions. Yes. Uh so it will simplify
uh the next question. Yeah. Why you
think someone like Roger Pendro and
others who shares with him this idea of
quantum mind that somehow it's the soul
yes are shut down and cast it. Yeah. At
first anybody who has a new ideas always
laughed at. First they laugh at you then
they get mad at you. Eventually they
love you. So at first they laughed at
Roger Penrose even though he had a Nobel
Prize. Now then people start to get mad
and slowly people are going wow because
we lived through the last h 100red years
was the rise of atheism from the late
1800s to the late 1900s. My grandma grew
up in that generation and
basically it was a reversal from the
centuries before where humans were very
religious and
superstitious and then science started
to grow in the late 1800s. And so people
went from believing in God too believing
in superstition too much and they went
all the way to the other extreme to
atheism and now the world's come back to
center. Like a lot of scientists are
starting to discover that the things
that religion talked about that there's
some truth to it. For example, you know,
in the Bible or different spiritual
books talks about there's some god
that's outside of time. like time has
nothing no effect on God because they
created time and if you look at modern
science that's kind of this
understanding that time isn't real
Albert Einstein 100 years ago wrote a
book general theory of relativity which
basically said time is relative every
single point in space in the whole
universe experiences a different sense
of time and so it's only been in the
last 50 years or hundred years that
scientists have really started to go
Well, you know, prayer prayer seems like
it shouldn't work because I'm standing
here. If I pray for somebody who's in
Europe, how can I affect them But then
science is starting to find quantum
entanglement. So two particles that are
100 light years apart, one can affect
the other instantly.
Faster connected, right So yeah, that's
so to
me the reason Penrose was laughed at is
because he lived through the rise of
extreme atheism which is probably going
away now. I have identified 12 others
okay who support somehow or have
different view but practically the same
idea of entrepreneurs. Half of them they
have Nobel Prize. Yeah. And my question
is there a conspiracy because you
mentioned something looks like your
opinion it's a natural process that
people against new idea right but here
I'm not counting one two right I reached
12 and every time they are brilliant
they are smart they are celebrated until
they talk about the soul or god and then
suddenly they are stupid shut down
eliminated is there a conspiracy yeah
probably it's called academia academia
has a lot of group think. You know, my
grandfather was an academic. He he was a
he taught at Yale and he was a
well-known scientist in his field. First
marine biology and then astrophysics. He
published in nature in
1974. And he at one point had a theory
that was counter to most people's
theory. though there was a theory in the
that in ocean fisheries where they're
fishing that this certain fish had
disappeared. And my grandfather was
working for the United Nations and he
said, "No, the fish didn't disappear.
They just are now swimming deeper." Mhm.
And he he was basically black ballalled
at United Nations uh food bank. I think
it work for the World Food Bank or
something. This was before I was born.
But you know, and my grandpa of course
was kind of a mad scientist, so he
didn't care that much. But if you go
group think or the mass hysteria of the
crowds not only affects supposedly dumb
people, average people, but it also
affects high IQ academics. Look at
universities now. People are they follow
the zeit, you know what zeitgeist means
It's a German word, the spirit of the
times. So whatever the spirit of the
times are, every academic is also
pressured to not lose their job. You saw
this recently with a lot of woke stuff
about gender, sex. A lot of professors,
some I know they're afraid to speak out
cuz like I'm going to lose my job. You
need to confirm to what everyone accepts
otherwise you're going to be cast away.
Exactly. So goes down to money. People
don't want to lose their job. That's
true. Comes down to So it's kind of a
money conspiracy. If you go against the
mainstream academic thought, you might
lose your paycheck. Let me ask you a
question related to the fame. Yeah. The
money. Yeah. This is to word that you
know so well. Yeah. So tell me do you
think spirituality and belief in after
life Yeah. Exist in that area or all it
become money, fame today will die. Yeah.
I I mean for sure when people gain fame,
when you make more money, you think less
about what happens after death because
you don't want to die when things are
going well. So yeah, I mean a lot of
people lose touch when they start to
make money and become famous. But
usually eventually something painful
happens and they come back around cuz
pain is visited upon the poor and the
rich. And so people who are rich lose a
child, they go bankrupt, they lose their
own health. And um like Tony Robbins
says, you know, when you succeed, you
party, but when you fail, you ponder. So
since everybody fails at something, rich
or poor, famous or unknown, everybody
starts at one point or another thinking
about God or almost everything. So you
don't think about God when you're at the
top. When everything's going well,
people don't think about they don't
question
anything. In general, you don't think
about it. It's it's when things go bad.
Interesting. That means we look for the
soul when we are in trouble. That's
right. The old saying when we're in
good. Yes. There's the old saying,
there's no atheists in a foxhole in
battle. The trench there, everybody's
praying to something. But is that a
proof that somehow God exists Because
deep we reach deep inside oursel once we
are in trouble. There's there's an inst
I think there's an instinct within all
of us to realize we're small. There's
something bigger than us. Yeah. People
look up. I mean ancient people used to
look up I read a book that the average
person in 500 years ago who lived in
Hawaii or Tahiti they could name 1,200
stars. That's how they navigated before
GPS. Um, Captain Cook, you know, there's
a famous uh European who explored the
South Pacific and all this and he said
these natives can just navigate from
island to island. They would look up.
So, people used to be very connected to
things bigger than themselves. You'd see
the stars, you'd see them move, you
know, and now because we have science,
sometimes we lose our sense of awe. It's
still pretty crazy that we're seeing
light from stars that are, you know,
billion miles away. So, yeah, modern
world probably makes us think less about
God. Yourself, what do you think happens
after we die After we die, it's a good
question.
Um, I'm not sure to be honest. I part of
me likes part of me likes what the
India I part of me I mean reincarnation
is kind of true. I have a farm. When a
cow dies we put the
body in compost pile then that body
breaks down the nitrogen, the
phosphates, the calcium in the bones. We
take that compost and we plant a fruit
tree and we get apples. So like the
cow turns into apples. So it does
reincarnate. And so I think on a
physical level there's kind of a
reincarnation or physicists say that
matter is neither d or energy is neither
you know created or destroyed. This law
of conservation. So in that sense our
energy isn't destroyed it's reformed.
And if you look at religion most
religions say something like that. You
go into a new body. I I had I had a
friend who died for 2
minutes. He he and he was a strong
Christian guy and um I asked him just a
couple he was he's actually a head coach
of one of the big university golf teams.
He's pretty well-known guy. I don't know
if I'll say his name on here, but I went
to high school with him and I was like,
"Hey, what happened when you he told me,
man, I died that the doctor said I
flatlined." I said, "What did you see"
He's like, "Nothing. It was just pitch
black." But then you read the stories of
other people. There was a guy here on my
podcast about a month ago and he's like,
"Man, I died in the full white light.
God, I saw it all and it changed my
life." So, I am not sure. That's my
answer. I wish I knew. We wish. All
right. Yeah. Let let me go to business a
little bit because we discussed uh yeah
enough about Roger Penrose and the stuff
uh if a new influencer starting a life
today. Yeah. Things are different. Yes.
Practically it's too crowded, right How
you will advise him to navigate this
crowded jungle So new entrepreneurs.
Yes. New or someone new. But let's say
influencer that means uh he has no
product yet right uh the beginning but
also it's nice to tell the one a little
bit above who reached an idea. Yeah.
Both what what's the advice It's a
different world. Like like 10 years ago
it was different. Yeah. I mean here's
the good news and the bad news. The bad
news is that every day 900,000 more
people get the internet. 10% of them
want to start a business online. And so
you have like 90,000 new competitors a
day. When I started my podcast
originally in 2012, there was like
10,000 podcasts. Now there's 5 million
estimated podcasts, right So the bad
news is there's competitors saturated.
But the good news, honestly, the
demand's bigger. So I think the demand
still has kept up with the I don't think
the supply has kept up with the demand.
Just know this and this is the simplest
thing I can tell
anybody. You get paid in proportion to
the difficulty of problems that you
solve. So if you learn to solve hard
problems, you'll always make money
because most people are lazy. So the
main problem I see with new
entrepreneurs is they're like, "Ty,
what's super easy" And I'm like,
"Whatever's too easy will become
saturated and stop working." So I tell I
was on the phone with a guy yesterday. I
said, "Man, you got the wrong mindset.
your mindset is always ty what's the
next easy thing I'm like that's going to
work for three months six months
somebody else is going to figure it out
a 100 competitors it won't work anymore
so I told him why don't you stop taking
shortcuts and if you really want to be
wealthy why don't you get good at
something that's hard that can be paid
ads that can be viral marketing going
viral on social media that can
be raising capital can be hard not many
people going to figure that
learn how to buy and sell companies.
Very few people are going to learn.
That's hard. So, I just tell people,
identify the hard skills, go after one
of them that interests you the most, and
it'll be a pain for a year or two, but
eventually you'll be alone making money.
Nobody will touch you.
Find a hard thing. Yes. What's what do
you think the most hard thing we can
find these days as an entrepreneur As
an entrepreneur, I mean, I put business
into like 14 divisions and 12 of them
are operations. The 12th and the hardest
is M&A, buying and selling companies.
The 11th level 11 of business is raising
capital. So, I think raising capital and
then buying and selling businesses, the
least amount of people do it. It takes
the most skill, the most knowledge, and
but that's why I call it the way of the
billionaire. Elon Musk out of the three
big businesses he's built, PayPal,
SpaceX, and Tesla, two of them he bought
from somebody else, didn't start. Um
Mark Zuckerberg out of the three big
businesses he built or owns, Facebook,
Instagram, and WhatsApp. Two of them he
bought and one of them he built from
scratch. So, I think if you can learn
how to raise capital and buy
businesses, nobody will ever compete
with you. You'll be fine. Your success
is just based on you. You It'll never be
saturated. It's too People are
intimidated by it. People are
intimidated. I the the jobs that will
get the most saturated, for example, or
whatever is the lowest skill, learn how
to make coffee and serve coffee at
Starbucks.
If you go to a job and it says training
program 5
days, you we'll take you from knowing
nothing to being good at it in 5 days. I
could predict your bank account low
because they're going to pay you. And by
the way, soon robots will do all that. I
don't know if you saw in Beverly Hills
when you pulled up here, there's Ubers
being replaced. That was Yeah. There's
just Jaguars driving around and nobody
in it. And you know a crazy thing For
every hundred accidents Uber drivers
have that hurt people, the robots only
have 20. They're
already way better than humans. So any
eat driving the Uber is pretty easy.
It's it's a hard job because you have to
stay awake, you know, but but it's not a
job that a robot can't replace you. So a
simple rule is ask yourself how soon
will a robot be able to replace me If
the answer is in the next 1 to two
years, do something else. Then do
something that takes a lot of innovation
and the human empathy. Yes, that's what
you need. Yeah. Empathy. Yeah. Working
with people is harder cuz humans are
complicated. So yes, I like marketing
because marketing is very advanced
because it's like working with humans at
scale. Well, you got to know how to read
people. And so really good marketers and
really good salespeople, it's harder for
AI to replace that now eventually. I
don't think they're going to be able
because in marketing, you need
innovation. You need to have
imagination. You need to understand how
to capture people's interest. Right.
Right. Yeah. At least you at least got
10 years. You're safe. I saw that
Google, their CEO, just announced
Willow, which is a new
supercomputer. It just solved the
problem in 5 minutes that took their old
supercomputers
uh septillion
years, more time than the universe has
been around. So, with this new quantum
computers coming, I don't even know
what's going to happen. But we're still
You probably got 10 years. I wish that
is true, but especially Google. Yeah. Uh
I test usually their stuff. Yeah. And
I'm sorry, they are dumb. They announced
things that are not true. Their AI is
very dumb compared to others, right And
for them, they solved all the problems.
Like I remember now they remove it
because it was a lot of embarrassment.
Yeah. Bart the first AI, it was a
catastrophe. when they announce it. Oh
my god, that's the best thing. They're
good at marketing. Exactly.
Listen, they own the word search engine
is Google. Even if it's a We can't own
They own the second largest search
engine, too. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah.
That's why I tell people, take it with a
grain of salt,
but it's slowly coming. Like I said, it
10 years ago, there was no robot car. I
actually got a test drive in one of the
first auto um autonomous cars. This is
like
2016. It wasn't Tesla. I don't think it
was a Tesla. It was somebody said to me,
"Hey, Ty, we want you to what" Vegas.
In Vegas. I think you were there. And I
It was a Tesla. And I went in the car
and we were on the freeway and there was
a driver there to be safe and it started
getting off on an exit that didn't
exist. I was like, "What are we doing"
He's like, "I think it's trying to get
off." And I'm like, there's no exit.
It's like a wall. It was just like So,
so in 2016 it wasn't here, but now
they've dialed that in.
So, I think going back to the
consciousness thing, human brain is a
quantum computer. Yes. So, the human bra
things that are the human brain that
take innovation, you got to be able to
compete with computers. Things like
making coffee and handing it to people,
there's going to be all robots. There's
going to be a robot that looks like a
person and everybody works at Starbucks
going to be laid off or at least 80% of
people because the cool thing about a
robot I mean is part of me hates that
thought but part of me is like man
humans make a lot of mistakes you know
humans get tired and robot would never
mess up your order but yeah I understand
it's also bad people go well now we
won't have jobs
but no that
That's that will push a human to be more
human. Exactly. Like you need to go back
to your essence like human are able to
innovate and to make new new products to
create new Yes. technology that robots
will never be able to do. So maybe it's
not that I agree with you. People are
like we'll lose our Starbucks jobs. I'm
like you don't even like your job. We're
going to lose the more robotic works
that nobody wants to do. Human work.
Yeah. Driving in an Uber is not good for
your body. You You have to sit there in
a car and deal with crazy people. Robots
seem good to me. But I agree with you.
Then humans have freedom to do the
things that they enjoy. Exactly. Humans
are happier when they're learning,
challenging themselves. You know, robot
will never be able to create a nice
piece of art. Even if it creates a lot
of pictures right now, but they're
boring pictures, but it's not an art.
It's not creating art. It's it can
create a product but it will never be an
innovative product a new product that
will do something in you because like AI
it's going to look for you it it will
create things from your database for
something that exists. Yeah. So it will
reach out to our database it will never
be able to create a new idea that does
not exist. Yeah. Talking about AI, a
topic that I love a lot and uh
I will ask you how you think in your own
business like uh your own empire yes
will be impacted by AI. So I'm already
working on for example I've got a
company that I have an incubator where I
incubate new companies and then I take
the winners and I put them into an
accelerator. I call it incubate
accelerate celebrate make money. So, I
had an idea earlier this year. I tested
it in my incubator. Now, it's in the
accelerator stage and it's profitable.
Spins off money every month. Well, one
of my new incubators about 6 months ago
I started working is called
5minut.ai. It basically there's science
that says if you call your customers
when they fill out a form on your
website in less than 5 minutes, you'll
get them. Yeah. It's a hundred times
more likely they buy from you. Now the
average business owner if somebody goes
to their website and fills out a form at
2 in the morning average business owner
is asleep and all their salespeople. So
my fiveminutai is we're coding an AI
human will call you. We might even say
it. I haven't decided. The law is not
totally decided but it might call you
and say hey this is Tai Lopez's
assistant AI man and I saw you filled
out his form. You're wanting to come to
his next mastermind. Can you are you in
Dubai Is that what it said And it just
confirms it all. And then it says, "By
the way, can I have Tai and his team
call you back at at 8:00 tonight I'll
set it on a calendar. What's your
email" The guy says, "Oh,
bob@gmail.com." Okay, Bob. I'm going to
send you an email and a text. Ty and his
team will be on the call at 8. So this
5minute.ai can call 10,000 businesses
per second. So if you get a thousand
leads in a day, it never gets tired. It
doesn't have to be paid. It always says
the right thing if you trade it like cuz
sometimes sales people say crazy stuff
you don't want them to say, right
Trying to get the deal. So that's
something practically an AI smart dialer
to set appointments with leads. And
that's just the beginning of 5minut.AI.
I have another AI company which is an AI
CEO and what it does is I like to read.
So it'll plug into my Slack where my my
team communicates. It'll plug into my
accounting software. It'll plug into my
bank accounts. And every day when I wake
up as the CEO, I have a two-page print
out. Here's everything going good in
your business. Compliment these people.
Give them bonus. Here's who's not doing
good. And so it's a business
intelligence report on my company right
now. For me to get business
intelligence, I have to ask this person
what' you do and what you do. I'd rather
a robot just tell me that's unbiased and
it's on and it's not going to try to
conceal anything or exaggerate anything.
So you're going to be using the AI as
more of assistant or helper just to Yes.
grab data that's already there, make
sense of it. AI is for you. It could be
also against you. The same way. True. So
this is not something scary. The same
way you will have 5 minutes you call it
form or someone will call you
immediately. Anyone can do the same.
Yes. So are we going to an invasion of
AI marketing Probably. Oh yeah. Then
the government will pass regulations and
change what can be done. But by then
I'll be I try to stay ahead of the
curve. I try to stay one year ahead. So
by the time there's too many AI dialers,
I'll have something else. I'll have a
quantum dialer. It'll place
consciousness into their mind. You want
to buy Tai's product.
I don't think we can be reaching that
one day. I'm going to ask Roger Penrose,
how can I implant, you know, there's a
concept in in a lot of this kind of
futuristic world called implanted
memories. So, one of the questions that
ethical physicists say is, "How do we
know anything's real" Because all you
have is your memories. So, I look back
and I'm like, "Oh, I was born in Los
Angeles and I remember my grandma, but
how do I know my grandma's real How do
I know somebody just didn't implant her
memory" And so, there's people, some
physicists believe we're in a big video
game of a higher intelligent species
that's 1 million years older than us.
Imagine how much more advanced
technologically we would be in a million
years. And so they are a million years
ahead and they have a fun video game. I
heard one physicist or or theoretical
physicist say we might be a
testing pilot for future generations. So
like let's see what happens if we elect
somebody like Donald Trump president in
our universe. So let's test it on this
alternate universe. And we're just it is
hard to know. There's no way you could
prove we're
real. Seems like I'm real. But you know
what's weird When I'm in a dream, it
also seems like the dream is real. And
so they call this, some people think the
world we live in now is called a hyper
clear dream. You know how like when
you're watching something and the
screen's fuzzy That's like our dreams
at night. But the future species has
these hyperlarity dreams that seem so
real. We would die for our reality.
People are out here dying for their
country when your country might not even
be real. Might be a we might be a very
interesting video game for some future
species. So you like the simulation
theory I like there's many versions of
it. I think the theory that I like the
most that seems to have a lot of legs to
it is called the block uh the block time
theory. So that time's not real. Time is
is a block. It's like a film strip when
you're making a movie. The whole film
strip's there, but then they call it
flat. They call it the spotlight theory,
which is our brains are so dumb. We
would explode if we tried to look at the
whole film strip. So we can only
experience consciousness like a
flashlight one by one on each of the
film strips. So for me I experience it
feels like I was one years old and then
I was 2 years old and I was three when
the reality is all of time is one big
block. And that by the
way
explains religion where they say God is
outside of space and time. God's not
restricted. No god. If there is a block
theory of time, just a big block of time
all at once, then God like in the Bible,
right You're Syrian. So, are you
Christian Aren't Syrians Christian
They have a lot of India has all kind of
religion. But there's kind of like
majority are Muslim. Muslims. Yeah. But
there's what's the all religion started
somehow in that region. Yeah. It's all
there, you know, updated.
Egyptian different what is the I'm
trying to remember the name of the of
the Christian groups that's there are a
lot is like copar Egyptian Egyptian
Aramaic maybe Aramaic yeah so if you
take that they say that that that god is
the alpha and the omega the beginning
and the end so if that's true that's
like the block time theory gods outside
of space and time because there's not
even one and so yeah the simul ation.
They're all kind of a version of that. I
think the memory implanted one is pretty
crazy and I I'll tell you why it's
practical. There's people who go to war
now and they have PTSD and scientists
are using things like psychedelics. Mhm.
And the idea is the psychedelics Yeah.
the part of your brain that stores fear
memories is called your amygdala.
So in your amygdala, if they could wipe
out some of those
memories, sure you would lose out on the
past, but you'd also lose out on extreme
trauma. So we're already messing with
memories also transa.
Yeah, but I agree. Maybe, you know, some
people say that trauma is experienced at
the whole cellular level, not just the
brain. But certainly the brain's a part
of it. By the way, transhumanism, which
some people, I think Elon Musk likes,
which is the thought that we can live
forever by just changing bodies. So, you
download all your
memories into a chip. You let your old
body disappear and then you download it
into a young body again. Wouldn't maybe
that be moving to the next step That's
what happens when we die. Exactly.
That's like reincarnation. Or maybe the
quantum mind is the eternal one and this
one is what you called uh the trans uh
the transhumanism transhuman version of
life for sure. I there's many there's a
lady that I listen to sometimes on
YouTube. She's very far out there. Okay.
Roger Penrose probably wouldn't listen
to her. Her name's Dolores Cannon. Okay.
And she is the most confident person in
her theories. She talks for hours about
how she was a therapist and for
thousands of people and she discovered
that people have past lives and they're
experiencing past lives and she has a
theory that basically we're here to
learn and earth is the hardest place in
the universe and so this is where you go
to learn the most and it's the hardest
and um if you don't learn it in this
lifetime you have to go through it again
and that's a little bit like the India
thing. So I don't know there I mean
there's so much out
there that could be true. One thing on
the quantum conversation what scientists
have found in my 67 steps which is kind
of like my mindset course. I don't know
if you've ever been in that but I have a
new version of the 67 steps. And one of
them is I call it quantum conclusions.
So at the classical large world we
pretty much know if I drop this that
gravity is going to pull it down. At the
quantum teeny level, we don't know
what's going to happen. Things happen
that aren't supposed to happen,
right And you can all there's no
absolutes. There's only probabilities.
So, what I think when people ask me
questions about let's say this question
about what happens after death, oh, is
there a soul I
think I can't be 100% sure, but I would
rank things by
probabilities. So, I'd say probably
this. I'd bet more money on this theory
like block theory of time. I would bet
more money on that than I would bet on
reincarnation. I think reincarnation is
more likely to be a theory because we're
not that high IQ that time keeps going
on and on. But in the reality of
physics, time's not really real. It's
it's that was Einstein's whole thing. He
said like if you're in a
train and somebody's watching you from a
road and the train's going 60 m hour and
you're walking in the train 5 m an hour
to the person on the ground you're going
65 m an hour. The train's going 60 and
you're walking on it. So if I measure
you, you're going 65. But when you're on
the train, you're only going 5 miles an
hour.
And then to make it all more
complicated, if a photon of light is
going above the
train, it never accelerates or de
accelerates. That's the whole thing
people don't understand about light.
Light doesn't accelerate. It's never
slower or faster. It just starts out.
And so he was trying to say there's
three people experiencing different
levels of time. The the photon of light
doesn't speed up or slow down. It's just
always going 186,000 mph. The guy in the
train experiences himself going 5 miles
an hour and the dude outside. So that
theory I think is probably 80% likely to
be true. I have a question but it will
take time to to ask. So bear with me.
But it's somehow I'm grouping everything
you said there today. So we said to make
crazy money to go to the next level you
need to stick to the difficult things.
Right. Correct. to go to really the
things or the skills that nobody can
replicate in what you said 5 minutes.
Yes. And now let's link that to what you
just said about um uh science and um
immortality and upgrading or uploading
our life into uh another life. Right
Yes. You talked about startup. If today
and this is the question now if today
there is a startup who will come
approach you and tell you and does not
exist. I'm not trying to to say it
exists. Yeah. If there is a startup
comes and tells you hey we figured a way
to
connect our world to the quantum soul
word. Okay. And we are working on a
device that will let you somehow upload
your consciousness or connect your
quantum consciousness to this device.
Yes. And then assure a continuity in
this life after that. Okay. And the
question will you raise money invest in
that or you will consider that madness
No, I'd be interested. I madness doesn't
scare me.
I sometimes I used to say to one of my
business partners, I have a crazy idea
I'm about to tell you. And he would say,
I used to be scared of those, but those
are usually your best ideas. So, mad
idea. No, I would. That is a tricky one.
I mean, I think Elon Musk is kind of
working on that with Neurolink. So, if
there's a competitor to Neurolink, yes,
you know, I answer this. I sometimes
think, what's the best company I could
ever come up with forget making money.
What's the most important company for
humanity I used to say the most
important is genetic engineering. So,
for example, babies that are born and
they're going to have high likelihood of
depression while they're in the mother's
womb, could or even before conception,
could you alter the gene code so that
the baby doesn't experience crippling
depression their whole life Okay. Then
there's another part of me that thinks
the most important company in the world
would be this one that we just said,
which is connecting
humans, uploading their brain, then
you're independent of your body,
uploading it, and then being able to put
it into younger bodies. The problem is,
tell you what the problem is. It's not
sure like you brought it up. Maybe all
of our experience is in our cells too.
So you can't just upload the brain. You
when you downloaded it, you'd find
yourself a totally different being. You
wouldn't be. Roger Perros and um
Hamroof, they said it's the
microtubules. Micro microtubules. They
are they have high concentration in
brain cells. Yes. But they are in every
cell. Yes. So that means the soul is
connected somehow to every cell but high
concentration in the brain. Yes. Now I
don't know what's the soul yet. Okay.
But it's something related to our
quantum mind. And I wish that company
exist. I will go back to I wish we want
a science of the soul because these
things apparently exist. Yes. But I
don't know why our science community is
shutting down all temptation to to make
it official study. And maybe we need the
next startup startup talking about AI
and how things are easier now maybe to
tackle this. Yes. Impossible. Remember,
science doesn't innovate. Science
usually comes out of necessity. So, for
example, antibiotics, you know, nobody
came up with antibiotics and nobody
innovated. Over time, we built on top,
but it was really World War I. So many
people dying that forced the scientific
community to think about these things.
So, I wouldn't wait for
scientists by nature conservative.
They're not going to come up with the
most cutting edge things. You need
that's why NASA which is only scientists
hasn't been able to send a reusable
rocket to space and Elon Musk an
entrepreneur is a risktaker and
innovative. Yeah. Crazy idea. Yeah. So
scientists aren't risktakers. So don't
wait for I love the mistake. You are
telling me suddenly that science that
used to be against uh it's called a
stagnation of ideas is now the reason
why we are stagnating in our ideas.
Yeah. Because and also the main problem
with science now is science takes money.
Okay. I'll give you a perfect example.
Scientists have no money to go out and
study if massage
therapy reduces the risk you get cancer
because who's paying for that The
average massage therapist makes 50 grand
a year. They don't have any money.
There's no centralized massage therapy
union. Um, so what do we study to
prevent cancer Chemicals. Because
pharmaceutical companies will give
millions because if you back their study
they make billions. So the one of the
biggest problems in science now is the
way it takes so much money to do good
science that they're te they're working
on stuff that's not even that important.
It's becoming uh companies corporates
actually. Yeah. Well, what's the good
news now is there's entrepreneur
scientists that are coming out that are
saying, "Okay, if we can prove that
massage cures cancer, then we can make
our AI there's a new AI robot that
massages you in the valley of Los
Angeles. I watched a review. It's like
the best massage ever. It's like these
two arms you lay down. It's like it
scans your body, finds where you have
the most inflammation.
Um, so sometimes I think you need
capitalism to help science. It's
controversial because people think
capitalism destroys science, but I don't
think that's true. No. Capitalism goes
hand in hand in science. Science need
innovation. It needs money. Yes. And now
capitalism created the perfect soldiers.
I call them the digital proletaria. That
means AI and robot, right Yes. So no,
science and capitalism are in are in bed
together. Yes, you're going to need AI.
The real question is, will you be able
to have an election next time with AI
around Cuz AI is going to make videos.
You're going to have that politicians
didn't say it. No, they're going to be
Oh, sorry. What were we going to say
Different kind of elections. Yeah,
hopefully better. Anything's better than
how we do elections now. I saw that.
What country was it Somewhere like some
country that's not wealthy. They counted
all their Oh, India counted all their
votes in one hour.
America took three weeks to count
Arizona's votes, you know. So maybe AI
will get in there and give
unbiased. I mean, Bitcoin and crypto is
a little bit of an AI concept. There's
Bitcoin there's no central person
controlling it and so it's a
decentralized and good AI will also be
decentralized hopefully. That's the
problem. You don't want all AI
controlled by Google.
This will be that's the issue, right
Yes. Yes. Well, good. This was amazing.